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William Seymour
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:56 pm |
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This is my first posting . First a confession, William Seymour is a nom de plume as he was my Great Uncle K.I.A. Isandlwana. He was a shoeing smith from the 80th but detached to the I.M.I.. 2 of his letters home have recently been published thanks to Robert Hope, one written only a week before he died.
I am asking for 2 bits of help involving the following picture which I hope comes over OK:
[url=http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x57/JKe1ghley/JohnSeymour.jpg]
All being well you should see a photo which another member of this forum, (JY), has already seen and described as follows:
'The uniform is something of a strange amalgam. The cap is a Field Service cap introduced in the mid-1880's when it replaced the Glengarry. However the tunic is the 1882 serge frock. The 'jam-pot' cuffs were introduced in 1881, following the Cardwell Reforms and were retained until 1902. The belt is the modified Slade-Wallace one, putting its manufacture post-1888. On to the medals; the first on the left is the 1877-8-9 South African Campaign model. Next is the 1882-6 Egyptian Campaign medal, withe Khedive's Star. The one on the right - the wrong breast is a puzzle. It might be a Life Saving award or another medal belonging to a deceased family member (my italics)'.
The family beleive that the photo is of one John Seymour and that William's S.A. medal is on his right breast. However, and this is where I need help, I cannot trace a person of that name that ticks all the boxes. If anyone has seen the photo before or can supply another possible name I would be grateful.
The other piece of help needed, is that of any website where the actual colours of the uniform, medals, stripes etc can be viewed or failing that a book, so that a friend of mine can colour enhance it as accurately as possible.
Thanks
JK
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Neil Aspinshaw
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:13 pm |
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I go with Peter on the IGS, I have an 80th 1879 Medal and the matching IGS (Perak Clasp) to 182 Pvt H Knowles 80th foot. This does appeat to be a common pair to 80th, A C Booth VC refused the Parak clasp as he claimed he was not present.
If it is Seymours 1879 medal, one can only guess at its value today, with only Sgt Johnson, Pvts Chesterton, Holman, McDonald, Thompson and Whitehouse
Being an ex member of the 80th re-enactment group I had some long discussions with Robert Hope, his book on the 80th and the AZW is the definative work.
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Sapper Mason
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:33 pm |
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Dear " William Seymour " ,
In 2001 i was part of a DOUBLE GRAVE DEDICATION ceremony in Manchester , one of the graves dedicated was that of Sgt FREDRICK Augustus Millne of Rorke's drift fame , the other was a memorial to Pte William Seymour of the 80th , some members of the 80th re-enactment group were present including one Jim Buckle of this group , i would be happy to converse with you on this matter and my home e - mail can be found ( under Archivist ) to the Anglo Zulu war group in one of the links attached to this forum , please send me a private mail and i will be happy to respond , best wishes , " Sapper " . ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif)
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