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Revolvers used during the Anglo-Zulu War 1879 interest me, but I wondered if holsters were available which attached to the waist belt, U.S. Cavalry-style for the Adams, Tranter, etc., which unusually faced butt-forward on the right-hand side ?
Perhaps not intentionally, maybe having been made for those who were left-handed, but put on the other side for right-handed use, as mentioned above - butt-forward.
Out of curiosity, was there any problems with firearms and equipment due to some men being left-handed, whether working firearm mechanisms, or the positioning of items on their equipment belts and straps ?
Were all the men trained in the right-handed use of their rifles ?
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:39 pm |
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Hi Coll, good to see you again mate.
I believe 'holsters' were called 'Pistol Cases' in the British Army, at least technically. In the latter 19th Century the British Army seems to have preferred hanging them from shoulder straps. Most of the A-ZW pictures I've seen seem to bear this out however on the backside under each snap-hook and 'D' ring strap attachment there are leather loops one of which appears to enable the case to be attached to a belt either left side butt forward or right side butt back. (I have a photo in a an old magazine article but I can't post it do to copyright restrictions.)
John has covered the US Army arrangement quite well.
As far as lefties go it was not until recent decades that recruits were permitted to fire left-handed. Prior to 1950s, in the US at least, lefties were forced to re-learn shooting from the right side. This having to do with firearm construction of match, flash pan, percussion cap, bolt, and cartridge ejection systems throughout the ages. For myself luckily, with the introduction of the M-14 and then M-16 we were permitted to remain lefties. This was a wonderful thing on patrol as each squad had then a least a few members who's barrels were pointed in the other direction providing instant coverage for the right flank. Less wonderful when there were only a few to chose from for minimal exposure when firing from the left side of a wall, building or other obstruction.
I have never had a problem firing my M-H or Winchester left handed either and little problem with bolt actions, however from looking at photos of the new British issue SA80 I don't think I'd have much of a face left if I attempted it there!
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Bill, yes I was one of the victims of the good old days in school! With full stocked rifles I was never bothered by the cartridge ejection but with the bull pup stock on the SA80 I'm quite sure I'd be bothered by getting my face hammered by the bolt! In training we were taught to fire with both eyes open (field of view) but all the lefties I knew had left eye master.
Thanks for the shot John. Yours is a different configuration than the photos in the article. Both of them have, parallel with the barrel side, a similar tang strap as your photo. One with a D-ring on top, the other with a snap hook. On the butt side, parallel, is a shorter strap with a D-ring on top that appears to have a shorter loop at the bottom. This model was obviously designed to hang primarily from a shoulder strap afixed to each ring, but also appears capable of being worn on a belt.
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John
After reading in my Colt revolver reference book about the cartridge pack (basically a 19th Century speedloader) manufactured in 1889, it got me to wondering if, indeed, British officers may have carried extra loaded cylinders for their revolvers during the AZW.
Although, unsure of the actual mechanisms of the revolvers used by the British, I don't know if such previously loaded cylinders would be quicker than loading individual cartridges.
Also, talking about holsters, do you know of any for carbines, which are full-length and have a flap, to protect the firearm from the weather ? I'm sure I saw a couple of examples, which had a shoulder strap allowing a person to carry the weapon diagonally across their back, rather than/or as well as being able to be attached to the saddles.
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