Julian whybra
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David
Mabin was General Staff Corps. |
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Martin Everett
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He was actually a clerk - and was promoted to Superindenting Clerk following Rorke's Drift - I suppose in today's army he would be Adjutant General's Corps - the thread orginally suggested that he was the senior NCO at Rorke's Drift - which technically he was - but would unlikely to have been involved directly in the planning and execution of defence.
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_________________ Martin Everett Brecon, Powys |
David Langley
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Thank you: did his Corps [whatever it was called] have a C-Sgt rank, or merely a staff-sergeant equivalent ? I am sniffing around this as I have a huge dossier on the C-Sgt rank and equivalents and sense yet another actual C-Sgt in the wings: this to add to the infantry, the RA [for a while] and the RE [yes, again for a while]. Should have stuck to infantry ............... |
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Martin Everett
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David
Sorry about the spelling (a slip) - should be 'Superintending or Superintendent Clerk'. His documents show: Transferred to General Staff of the Army 19/5/1872. Authority dated 23/9/1872. Appointed Military Staff Clerk and Promoted to Sergeant 20/5/1872. Awarded good conduct pay at 2d rate 1/6/1874. Arrived in Dover 27/4/1875. Appointed Colour/Sergeant 20/5/1875. Re-engaged as a Colour/Sergeant to complete 21 years service 14/6/1876 at Dover. Transferred to the District Office, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa dated 6/6/1878. Served in South Africa 4/7/1878 � 2/2/1898 total 19 years 213 days. Arrived on the Eastern Frontier, South Africa 28/7/1878. Present during the defence of Rorke�s Drift Mission Station, Natal, South Africa 22-23/1/1879. [It is unknown why he was left at the drift when the General Lord Chelmsford crossed the river into Zululand]. Appointed Superintendent Clerk 19/2/1880. Served in the first Boer War 1880-1 and was present at Laing�s Nek, Ingogo and Majuba Hill. He was Chief Clerk to Sir George Colley. He was stood by Sir George when Sir George was shot dead by the Boers�. Awarded good conduct pay at 3d rate 1/6/1880 and Promoted to Sergeant/Major. etc, etc |
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David Langley
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Martin that's brilliant! So another department had C-Sgts. A turn-up! Even Major Dawnay in his magisterial "Badges of WO and NCO ........etc" did not deal with that!
The Good Conduct pay is also of interest: the various Warrants and Orders do not spell out to the nth detail what to do once a man reached sergeant [corporal after rule change 1881] ....... the assumption was that, if he ceased to be "good" to the required degree, he ceased to be a sergeant! But the rules do provide [wording differs in different Warrants] ..... 997. A soldier reduced from a higher rank to one of the ranks eligible for a GC badge [and pay!] shall be at once awarded a number of badges less by one than he would have been entitled to ....... So this was a safety net for demoted NCOs. Fascinating, and thank you again. |
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Julian whybra
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David
The General Staff Corps was nothing to do with the Army Commissariat and Transport Department. Two different animals. |
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David Langley
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Please where can I read to brush up on this alarming gap .......... in my admittedly too large library I have nothing at all that deals adequately with the small but vital cogs of the military wheel ...... or have I ........ perhaps glossed over as being not sufficiently warlike? |
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John Young
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David,
That's why my question on the VWF has gone unanswered then! You've never heard of the unit! John |
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David Langley
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Sorry if I have been rude, the pace and complexities of life sometimes reveal me for the slow old dodderer that I am but WHAT WHAT WHAT? |
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The SNCO ? |
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