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smithart101


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Here's my recreation of the 17th Lancers on patrol in Zululand.
Not sure if Buglers rode white horses at this time or if they carried a trumpet and bugle as I have shown.......





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AMB


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Superb!

Lance pennants furled?

AMB


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smithart101


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thank you AMB, I think they furled the pennants while in the field, but not certain of that!
Simon

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Peter Ewart


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Simon

The quality, realism and attention to detail in all your work takes my breath away. So lifelike! I find myself staring at tiny details and thinking: "Surely that's a photograph?" !!!

Peter
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Jeremy Reynolds


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Simon.
The picture is Excellent!!!!!!
Will a copy/copies be available for sale soon?
Kind Regards.
Jeremy.
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Dewi Evans


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Simon,

Another fantastic painting, can't wait to see your next Zulu War subject.

Dewi.
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smithart101


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thanks Peter ,Jeremy and Dewi!
I will be releasing prints of this subject shortly along with a Sgt Booth VC and also a Pvte Wassal VC painting. The last of the set will be Buller rescuing an officer at Hlobane.
I will post previews of these other artworks for comments soon.
Simon

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Sawubona


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Outstanding work once again, Simon! Now why do you think they furled the pennons in the field? I'm not being a troll here, but I started a thread about that very subject not long ago. R. Caton Woodville often pictured the lance pennons furled and knotted, but I can't find any written record that it was actually done either as a matter of practicality or outright regulation.
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John Young


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There is a photograph of the 17th 'in the field' in Zululand taken on 2nd June 1879, the only problem is they have their lances reversed, as they paraded before the coffin of the Prince Imperial. However, if anyone has an original copy of the photograph, rather than a reproduced one, we might be able to establish the fact whether they are furled or not.

Simon,

My query is did they have lance buckets on both the off & near side?

John Y.
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smithart101


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Sawubona,

having had some images supplied by a very respected author I have to agree that unfurled pennons are most likely. Three contemporary eyewitness artists have depicted the lances with pennons flying, most notable of all, Charles Fripp showing them charging at Ulundi and Melton Priors sketch of the burial party at Isandlwana.

I will post the revised artwork shortly..
Simon

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smithart101


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John,

the references I used for the lance bucket on both stirrups were the Mike Chappell Osprey titles, British Cavalry Equipments 1800-1914 both original and revised editions.
In the original edition page 31 has a photo of a trooper with such a rig, tho' it is dated 1914 but I'm guessing British cavalry regulations didn't change too much over the years.
It also says on Page 18 of the revised edition, that two lance boots were usual.

Simon

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smithart101


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Some uniform and equipment changes as advised by an authority on 17th Lancers. Well we could play spot the difference....




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