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Date	Original Topic
5th October 2003	RSM of the 1st/24th By paul tocher Please could any one tell me weither the RSM of the 1st/24th was killed at isandlwana or did he live ? also what was his name and history ?
Date	Replies
5th October 2003	Martin Everett Dear aul, We do not know much about him. HIs name was Frederick Gapp and he enlisted in about 1861. Promoted Sergeant Major on 31/3/1875. He was awarded the LS&GC on 1/10/1878. That's all I have got. There were other former Sergeant Majors killed - William Seaton - he was SM in 1871, but was Canteen Steward of 1/24th at Isandhlwana. And of course QM James Pullen acted as Sergeant Major 1/24th in the Eastern Cape between May and December 1873. And then there was QM Edward Bloomfield who was Sergeant Major of 2/24th in 1868-1871 before being commissioned. Will that do?
5th October 2003	Martin Everett Dear Paul, Sorry I missed the 'P' of Paul. I forgot to mention - the rank is Sergeant Major. RSM was only introduced in WW1 when the rank of Warrant Officer Class 2 was brought in.
5th October 2003	paul tocher Dear Martin, many thanks for your very quick reply , i never knew rsm rank was ww1 onwards
19th October 2003	Richard I think Frederick gapp would have enlisted in 1860, the qualification time for the LS&GC was 18 years service so if he was awarded it in 1878 he must have enlisted in 1860.